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                <title><![CDATA[Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A. // Medicare-Eligible Individuals With Group Health Insurance Beware!]]></title>
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>In our practice—focused on personal injury, medical negligence, workers’ compensation, and wrongful death—we routinely handle Medicare and health insurance liens. These entities often have statutory or contractual rights to be reimbursed from any settlement or judgment recovered from third parties, meaning those legally responsible for causing the harm. This article addresses a separate legal issue&hellip;</p>
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<p>In our practice—focused on personal injury, <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0766/0766ContentsIndex.html&StatuteYear=2024&Title=%2D%3E2024%2D%3EChapter%20766" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">medical negligence</a>, <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0400-0499/0440/0440ContentsIndex.html&StatuteYear=2024&Title=%2D%3E2024%2D%3EChapter%20440" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">workers’ compensation</a>, and <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0768/Sections/0768.16.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">wrongful death</a>—we routinely handle <a href="https://www.medicare.gov/basics/get-started-with-medicare?utm_source=google&utm_medium=paid_search&utm_campaign=pn-cmsntm2025-gm&utm_term=trafficdriving&utm_content=pn05052025_compare&s_kwcid=AL!18036!3!758138391808!b!!g!!original%20medicare%20part%20a%20and%20b&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22673763791&gbraid=0AAAAAoc7fQqaJVluHcEFD9UZyeP8Oodwk&gclid=CjwKCAjw4K3DBhBqEiwAYtG_9MS9xlLkvtNDgw_mJvhIzWqIbAYEMn7H4IF7HovtoSRNmkTKCYhIcRoCj7oQAvD_BwE" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Medicare</a> and health insurance liens. These entities often have statutory or contractual rights to be reimbursed from any settlement or judgment recovered from third parties, meaning those legally responsible for causing the harm.</p>



<p>This article addresses a separate legal issue involving medical expenses.</p>



<p>When individuals turn 65, they become eligible for <a href="https://www.medicare.gov/basics/get-started-with-medicare/after-65" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Medicare</a>. It’s not uncommon for those with private group health insurance to mistakenly believe they don’t need to enroll in Medicare at that time. </p>



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<p>That assumption is generally accurate if the individual or their spouse is actively employed by a company with 20 or more employees. In such cases, the employer-sponsored group health plan is considered the primary payer, and Medicare functions as secondary coverage. These individuals remain covered even if they delay enrolling in Medicare, as long as the employer-sponsored group health plan is primary.</p>



<p>Problems arise when Medicare-eligible individuals have employer coverage through a company with fewer than 20 employees and fail to enroll in Medicare. In these situations, Medicare is considered the primary payer, and the employer plan may refuse to cover claims that Medicare should have paid. Moreover, if the group health insurer initially pays a claim it wasn’t responsible for—because Medicare should have been primary—it may seek to recover, or “claw back,” those payments from the medical providers. In turn, those providers often pursue the patient directly for the unpaid balance.</p>



<p>Similarly, if an individual is over 65 and has retiree health coverage or continues employer-sponsored insurance through <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1985" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">COBRA (the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act)</a>, Medicare is considered the primary payer. The secondary coverage will only pay if Medicare has paid its portion first. Furthermore, if the secondary insurer mistakenly pays for services that Medicare should have covered, it has the right to claw back those funds, potentially from the provider or the patient.</p>



<p>There are no clear obligations for insurers, employers, or the government to inform individuals about how coordination-of-benefits rules may change once they become eligible for Medicare. </p>



<p>One potential remedy for individuals facing this dilemma is to pursue legal action against the broker responsible for managing the employer’s health insurance plan for failing to provide adequate information. This option is less than ideal. </p>



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<p><strong>Contact us</strong>&nbsp;at 305-758-4900 or by email to learn your legal rights.</p>



<p><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jeffgalelaw.com/" target="_blank">Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A.</a>&nbsp;is a&nbsp;<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=south+florida&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&rlz=1I7MXGB_enUS635&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_sKjTobrQAhUBhiYKHea4CPIQ_AUICigD&biw=1097&bih=498" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">South Florida</a>&nbsp;based law firm committed to the judicial system and to representing and obtaining justice for individuals – the poor, the injured, the forgotten, the voiceless, the defenseless and the damned, and to protecting the rights of such people from corporate and government oppression. We do not represent government, corporations or large business interests.</p>



<p>While prompt resolution of your legal matter is our goal, our approach is fundamentally different. Our clients are “people” and not “cases” or “files.” We take the time to build a relationship with our clients, realizing that only through meaningful interaction can we best serve their needs. In this manner, we have been able to best help those requiring legal representation.</p>



<p><strong>DISCLAIMER</strong>: This information provided by Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A. is for informational purposes only and is intended to be used as a non-legal guide prior to consultation with an attorney familiar with your specific legal situation. It should not be considered legal advice or counseling. No such legal advice or counseling is either expressly or impliedly intended. This information is not a substitute for the advice or counsel of an attorney. If you require legal advice, you should seek the services of an attorney.</p>



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                <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2025 16:41:32 GMT</pubDate>
                
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>Despite having many potential sources of payment for medical expenses in ride share-related crashes, Uber riders sometimes end up holding the bag. The most common payment sources are PIP, MedPay, health insurance, Medicare, Medicaid, and bodily injury liability insurance. With a few exceptions, every owner or registrant of a motor vehicle required to be registered&hellip;</p>
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<p>Despite having many potential sources of payment for medical expenses in <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0600-0699/0627/Sections/0627.748.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ride share</a>-related crashes, <a href="https://www.uber.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uber</a> riders sometimes end up holding the bag.</p>



<p>The most common payment sources are <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0600-0699/0627/Sections/0627.733.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PIP</a>, <a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/medical-payments-coverage.asp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MedPay</a>, health insurance, <a href="https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10043.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicare</a>, <a href="https://www.hhs.gov/answers/medicare-and-medicaid/what-is-the-difference-between-medicare-medicaid/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicaid</a>, and <a href="https://www.libertymutual.com/vehicle/auto-insurance/coverage/bodily-injury-liability" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bodily injury liability insurance</a>.</p>



<p>With a few exceptions, every owner or registrant of a motor vehicle required to be registered and licensed in Florida must maintain PIP insurance. See <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0600-0699/0627/Sections/0627.733.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Florida Statute 627.733</a>. PIP, which applies without regard to fault, covers medical expenses and lost wages. Most Florida policies limit PIP coverage to $10,000 and apply deductibles.</p>



<p>One of the benefits of the ride share industry is that people can go without owning a vehicle. However, PIP is not automatically available to those PIP passengers who live in Florida and do not reside with a relative who maintains PIP insurance. Likewise, other medical insurance may not be available.</p>





<p>In some instances, ride share drivers have PIP coverage for passengers. The driver must inform his carrier of his ride share work and pay a premium for ride share coverage. If the driver fails to do this, the carrier will deny coverage. Uber is not required to maintain PIP in Florida, so it doesn’t.</p>



<p>Uber maintains bodily injury liability (BI) coverage and MedPay under its Florida insurance policies. Contrary to popular belief, it does not maintain <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0600-0699/0627/Sections/0627.727.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UM/UIM coverage</a>. Uber’s BI only applies if its driver is at-fault. It covers non-economic damages such as pain and suffering and economic damages such as income loss and medical expenses. Like PIP, MedPay applies without regard to fault. If PIP isn’t available or is exhausted, it will cover up to $5,000 in medical expenses. Unlike PIP, it must be reimbursed from BI payments (its own or from third-parties).</p>



<p>Health insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid may also cover medical expenses. Like MedPay, they must be reimbursed from BI money.</p>



<p>Medical expenses are costly. Steps can be taken to limit personal exposure to those expenses.</p>



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<p><strong>Contact us</strong> at 305-758-4900 or by email (kgale@jeffgalelaw.com and jgale@jeffgalelaw.com) to learn your legal rights.</p>



<p><a href="/">Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A.</a> is a <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=south+florida&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&rlz=1I7MXGB_enUS635&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_sKjTobrQAhUBhiYKHea4CPIQ_AUICigD&biw=1097&bih=498" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">South Florida</a> based law firm committed to the judicial system and to representing and obtaining justice for individuals – the poor, the injured, the forgotten, the voiceless, the defenseless and the damned, and to protecting the rights of such people from corporate and government oppression. We do not represent government, corporations or large business interests.</p>



<p>While prompt resolution of your legal matter is our goal, our approach is fundamentally different. Our clients are “people” and not “cases” or “files.” We take the time to build a relationship with our clients, realizing that only through meaningful interaction can we best serve their needs. In this manner, we have been able to best help those requiring legal representation.</p>



<p><strong>DISCLAIMER</strong>: This information provided by Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A. is for informational purposes only and is intended to be used as a non-legal guide prior to consultation with an attorney familiar with your specific legal situation. It should not be considered legal advice or counseling. No such legal advice or counseling is either expressly or impliedly intended. This information is not a substitute for the advice or counsel of an attorney. If you require legal advice, you should seek the services of an attorney.</p>
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