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                <title><![CDATA[Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A. // Florida PIP Payments in Uber Crashes]]></title>
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                <pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2025 16:41:32 GMT</pubDate>
                
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>Despite having many potential sources of payment for medical expenses in ride share-related crashes, Uber riders sometimes end up holding the bag. The most common payment sources are PIP, MedPay, health insurance, Medicare, Medicaid, and bodily injury liability insurance. With a few exceptions, every owner or registrant of a motor vehicle required to be registered&hellip;</p>
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<p>Despite having many potential sources of payment for medical expenses in <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0600-0699/0627/Sections/0627.748.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ride share</a>-related crashes, <a href="https://www.uber.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Uber</a> riders sometimes end up holding the bag.</p>



<p>The most common payment sources are <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0600-0699/0627/Sections/0627.733.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">PIP</a>, <a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/medical-payments-coverage.asp" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MedPay</a>, health insurance, <a href="https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10043.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicare</a>, <a href="https://www.hhs.gov/answers/medicare-and-medicaid/what-is-the-difference-between-medicare-medicaid/index.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicaid</a>, and <a href="https://www.libertymutual.com/vehicle/auto-insurance/coverage/bodily-injury-liability" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bodily injury liability insurance</a>.</p>



<p>With a few exceptions, every owner or registrant of a motor vehicle required to be registered and licensed in Florida must maintain PIP insurance. See <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0600-0699/0627/Sections/0627.733.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Florida Statute 627.733</a>. PIP, which applies without regard to fault, covers medical expenses and lost wages. Most Florida policies limit PIP coverage to $10,000 and apply deductibles.</p>



<p>One of the benefits of the ride share industry is that people can go without owning a vehicle. However, PIP is not automatically available to those PIP passengers who live in Florida and do not reside with a relative who maintains PIP insurance. Likewise, other medical insurance may not be available.</p>





<p>In some instances, ride share drivers have PIP coverage for passengers. The driver must inform his carrier of his ride share work and pay a premium for ride share coverage. If the driver fails to do this, the carrier will deny coverage. Uber is not required to maintain PIP in Florida, so it doesn’t.</p>



<p>Uber maintains bodily injury liability (BI) coverage and MedPay under its Florida insurance policies. Contrary to popular belief, it does not maintain <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0600-0699/0627/Sections/0627.727.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">UM/UIM coverage</a>. Uber’s BI only applies if its driver is at-fault. It covers non-economic damages such as pain and suffering and economic damages such as income loss and medical expenses. Like PIP, MedPay applies without regard to fault. If PIP isn’t available or is exhausted, it will cover up to $5,000 in medical expenses. Unlike PIP, it must be reimbursed from BI payments (its own or from third-parties).</p>



<p>Health insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid may also cover medical expenses. Like MedPay, they must be reimbursed from BI money.</p>



<p>Medical expenses are costly. Steps can be taken to limit personal exposure to those expenses.</p>



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<p><strong>Contact us</strong> at 305-758-4900 or by email (kgale@jeffgalelaw.com and jgale@jeffgalelaw.com) to learn your legal rights.</p>



<p><a href="/">Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A.</a> is a <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=south+florida&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&rlz=1I7MXGB_enUS635&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_sKjTobrQAhUBhiYKHea4CPIQ_AUICigD&biw=1097&bih=498" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">South Florida</a> based law firm committed to the judicial system and to representing and obtaining justice for individuals – the poor, the injured, the forgotten, the voiceless, the defenseless and the damned, and to protecting the rights of such people from corporate and government oppression. We do not represent government, corporations or large business interests.</p>



<p>While prompt resolution of your legal matter is our goal, our approach is fundamentally different. Our clients are “people” and not “cases” or “files.” We take the time to build a relationship with our clients, realizing that only through meaningful interaction can we best serve their needs. In this manner, we have been able to best help those requiring legal representation.</p>



<p><strong>DISCLAIMER</strong>: This information provided by Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A. is for informational purposes only and is intended to be used as a non-legal guide prior to consultation with an attorney familiar with your specific legal situation. It should not be considered legal advice or counseling. No such legal advice or counseling is either expressly or impliedly intended. This information is not a substitute for the advice or counsel of an attorney. If you require legal advice, you should seek the services of an attorney.</p>
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                <title><![CDATA[Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A. /// Personal Injury Liability Cases — The Perils of Ignoring Medicare’s Future Interest]]></title>
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                <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2025 18:24:55 GMT</pubDate>
                
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>Our law firm handles both workers’ compensation and personal injury cases, claimant’s/plaintiff’s side only. For years we have been dealing with Medicare Set-Asides (MSA) in our workers’ compensation cases. We have not been doing it in our personal injury cases. It may be time to start. A Medicare Set-Aside is a legal device used to&hellip;</p>
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<p>Our law firm handles both <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0400-0499/0440/0440ContentsIndex.html&StatuteYear=2019&Title=%2D%3E2019%2D%3EChapter%20440" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">workers’ compensation</a> and personal injury cases, claimant’s/plaintiff’s side only. For years we have been dealing with <a href="https://www.cms.gov/medicare/coordination-benefits-recovery/workers-comp-set-aside-arrangements" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicare Set-Asides (MSA)</a> in our <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0400-0499/0440/0440ContentsIndex.html&StatuteYear=2019&Title=%2D%3E2019%2D%3EChapter%20440" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">workers’ compensation</a> cases. We have not been doing it in our personal injury cases. It may be time to start.</p>



<p>A <a href="https://ametros.com/faqs/medicare-set-asides/what-is-a-medicare-set-aside/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicare Set-Aside</a> is a legal device used to make sure <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicare</a> covers future medical expenses associated with accident-related injuries.</p>



<p>When <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicare</a> began in 1966, it was the primary payor for all claims except for those covered by Workers’ Compensation, <a href="https://www.dol.gov/agencies/owcp/dcmwc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Federal Black Lung benefits</a>, and <a href="https://www.va.gov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Veteran’s Administration (VA)</a> benefits. In 1980, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Congress</a> passed legislation to expand the exception list to include the following plans:
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<li>Liability insurance plans (automobile, premises)</li>



<li><a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0600-0699/0627/Sections/0627.7407.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">No Fault (PIP)</a></li>



<li>Self-Insured</li>
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All of these plans, rather than <a href="https://www.medicare.gov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicare</a>, are considered primary payors of medical expenses covered by the respective policies. In 2007, <a href="https://www.congress.gov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Congress</a> passed legislation imposing reporting requirements on primary payors. The requirements, which involve furnishing Medicare with claim-related information, are laid out in section 111 of the <a href="https://www.congress.gov/110/plaws/publ173/PLAW-110publ173.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicare, Medicaid, and Schip Extension Act of 2007</a>. The purpose of the requirements is to keep <a href="https://www.cms.gov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Medicare</a> from paying for medical care that is otherwise the responsibility of primary payors. <a href="https://www.visitthecapitol.gov/explore/about-congress" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Congress</a> has decided that Medicare, which is a taxpayer-funded program, should not bear primary responsibility for medical expenses covered by insurance policies and self-insureds.</p>





<p>The <a href="https://www.cms.gov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS)</a> has issued rules for when an MSA must be used in workers’ compensation cases. The guideline is that injured workers must be eligible for Medicare or expect to be eligible within 30 months of the settlement of the workers’ compensation case.</p>



<p>Individuals become eligible for Medicare based on <a href="https://www.medicare.gov/basics/get-started-with-medicare/sign-up/when-can-i-sign-up-for-medicare" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">age</a> or <a href="https://medicareadvocacy.org/medicare-info/medicare-coverage-for-people-with-disabilities/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">disability</a>. The age for entitlement is 65, while individuals under 65 become eligible after they have been qualified to receive <a href="https://www.ssa.gov/disability" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Social Security Disability Income (SSDI)</a> benefits for 24 months. Many people injured in accidents apply for <a href="https://www.usa.gov/social-security-disability" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">SSDI</a>, implicating MSA issues.</p>



<p>CMS has not issued guidelines for personal injury cases. However, as the reporting language and other requirements do not distinguish between workers’ compensation and personal injury cases, it is reasonable to conclude that the MSA law applies equally to both.</p>



<p>An MSA designates portions of the proceeds of a settlement to pay for future accident-related medical expenses. Typically, the set-aside amount is determined by experts employed by the parties — in workers’ compensation cases, the expense is always covered by the carriers — based on medical conditions and anticipated needs. In many instances, <a href="https://www.cms.gov/medicare/coordination-benefits-recovery/workers-comp-set-aside-arrangements" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CMS will review the proposed set-aside amount</a> to determine adequacy. It has the option of approving the proposed amount or requiring more. On rare occasions, it will even require a lower amount. To avoid future issues, it is always better to get CMS’s approval. However, <a href="https://www.cms.gov/medicare/coordination-benefits-recovery/workers-comp-set-aside-arrangements" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CMS will only review WCMSA proposals that meet the following criteria</a>:
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<li>The claimant is a Medicare beneficiary and the total settlement amount is greater than $25,000.00; or</li>



<li>The claimant has a reasonable expectation of Medicare enrollment within 30 months of the settlement date and the anticipated total settlement amount for future medical expenses and disability/lost wages over the life or duration of the settlement agreement is expected to be greater than $250,000.00</li>
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<p>
Medicare Set-Asides are not mandatory. No law is violated for not using one. However, if one isn’t used where the injured person is eligible for Medicare or expects to be eligible within 30 months of the settlement, Medicare will require that 100% of the settlement money be used to pay for accident-related medical services before it will begin to cover any accident-related medical expenses. (Even without an MSA, Medicare will continue to cover the medical expenses of care unrelated to the accident.)</p>



<p>With an MSA, especially one that has been pre-approved by CMS, Medicare will become the primary payor once the MSA money is exhausted. However, CMS places the burden on the Medicare recipient to prove the money was exhausted appropriately. Because the paperwork is onerous and exacting, it may be advisable to use a company to administer the MSA. A number of companies offer the service at a reasonable rate — $1,000 for one we did recently.</p>



<p>An MSA can also be <a href="https://www.cms.gov/medicare/coordination-benefits-recovery/workers-comp-set-aside-arrangements/self-administration" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">self-administered</a>. Because of the difficulty in administering the MSA and the consequences of failing to do so correctly, we have our clients who choose this route sign a document acknowledging the risks and their duties and responsibilities.</p>



<p>The need for an MSA can make it more difficult to settle a case. Except to pay for medical care, a portion of the settlement proceeds is beyond the reach of the injured party. Some of our clients decide to use the MSA-earmarked money on unrelated expenses. Where, after thoughtful consideration, it is decided that the medical needs for the accident-related injuries will be nominal, this can be a safe option.</p>



<p>There is no reason to believe that MSAs are not a necessary tool in personal injury cases. It may be time to start treating them like they are.</p>



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<p><strong>Contact us</strong> at 305-758-4900 or by email to learn your legal rights.</p>



<p><a href="/">Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A.</a> is a <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=south+florida&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&rlz=1I7MXGB_enUS635&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_sKjTobrQAhUBhiYKHea4CPIQ_AUICigD&biw=1097&bih=498" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">South Florida</a> based law firm committed to the judicial system and to representing and obtaining justice for individuals – the poor, the injured, the forgotten, the voiceless, the defenseless and the damned, and to protecting the rights of such people from corporate and government oppression. We do not represent government, corporations or large business interests.</p>



<p>While prompt resolution of your legal matter is our goal, our approach is fundamentally different. Our clients are “people” and not “cases” or “files.” We take the time to build a relationship with our clients, realizing that only through meaningful interaction can we best serve their needs. In this manner, we have been able to best help those requiring legal representation.</p>



<p><strong>DISCLAIMER</strong>: This information provided by Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A. is for informational purposes only and is intended to be used as a non-legal guide prior to consultation with an attorney familiar with your specific legal situation. It should not be considered legal advice or counseling. No such legal advice or counseling is either expressly or impliedly intended. This information is not a substitute for the advice or counsel of an attorney. If you require legal advice, you should seek the services of an attorney.</p>
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                <title><![CDATA[Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A. // Florida Fails Again at Mandating Bodily Injury Insurance Coverage]]></title>
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                <pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2024 20:51:26 GMT</pubDate>
                
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                <description><![CDATA[<p>For the eighth year in a row, the Florida Legislature has considered but failed to make bodily injury (BI) insurance coverage mandatory for every owner or operator of a motor vehicle required to be registered in this state. The two bills proposed for this reason during the recently concluded legislative session failed to receive a&hellip;</p>
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<p>For the eighth year in a row, the <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Welcome/index.cfm" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Florida Legislature</a> has considered but failed to make bodily injury (BI) insurance coverage mandatory for every owner or operator of a motor vehicle required to be registered in this state. The two bills proposed for this reason during the recently concluded legislative session failed to receive a committee hearing.</p>



<p>Florida and New Hampshire are the only two states in the Union that do not require all drivers to carry BI coverage.</p>



<p>What Florida does require is <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0600-0699/0627/Sections/0627.730.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">personal injury protection or PIP</a> and <a href="http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0300-0399/0324/Sections/0324.022.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">property damage (PD) liability</a> coverage in the amount of $10,000 because of damage or destruction to the property of others in a crash.</p>



<p>Three years ago, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Legislature" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Florida’s Legislature</a> passed a bipartisan bill that would have required BI coverage. Pressured by the insurance industry, <a href="https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southeast/2021/06/30/620736.htm#:~:text=Florida%20Governor%20Ron%20DeSantis%20has,insurers%20offer%20medical%20payments%20coverage." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gov. Ron DeSantis vetoed the bill</a>. This year’s proposed bills addressed some of the concerns expressed by Gov. DeSantis when he vetoed the bill. Nevertheless, the insurance industry kept the bills from gaining traction.</p>



<p>Florida’s auto insurance premiums are among the highest in the country. Last year, <a href="https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/837" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HB 837</a> was sold by the insurance industry as a solution to the premium crisis. It was passed into law. The law compromises the rights of individuals harmed by the negligence of others. Meanwhile, insurance rates continue to skyrocket.</p>



<p>According to an <a href="https://www.forbes.com/advisor/car-insurance/rates-by-state/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">analysis by Forbes</a>, Florida drivers pay twice the national average for full coverage. A <a href="https://www.floir.com/sitedocuments/floirreviewpip20160913.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">2016 report commissioned by the Florida Office of Insurance Regulation</a> found that moving from PIP to mandatory BI would reduce insurance premiums on average from 5.6 to 9.6 percent, and up to 24 percent in Miami-Dade County.</p>



<p>Mostly because of Florida’s prohibitively high insurance rates, more than 20% of at-fault drivers will not have sufficient BI insurance to cover the losses suffered by the accident victim. <em>See</em> <a href="https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-uninsured-motorists" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Insurance Information Institute, “Facts + Statistics: Uninsured Motorists.”</a> </p>



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<p><strong>Contact us</strong> at 305-758-4900 or by email (jgale@jeffgalelaw.com and kgale@jeffgalelaw.com) to learn your legal rights.</p>



<p><a href="/">Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A.</a> is a <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=south+florida&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&rlz=1I7MXGB_enUS635&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_sKjTobrQAhUBhiYKHea4CPIQ_AUICigD&biw=1097&bih=498" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">South Florida</a> based law firm committed to the judicial system and to representing and obtaining justice for individuals – the poor, the injured, the forgotten, the voiceless, the defenseless and the damned, and to protecting the rights of such people from corporate and government oppression. We do not represent government, corporations or large business interests.</p>



<p>While prompt resolution of your legal matter is our goal, our approach is fundamentally different. Our clients are “people” and not “cases” or “files.” We take the time to build a relationship with our clients, realizing that only through meaningful interaction can we best serve their needs. In this manner, we have been able to best help those requiring legal representation.</p>



<p><strong>DISCLAIMER</strong>: This information provided by Jeffrey P. Gale, P.A. is for informational purposes only and is intended to be used as a non-legal guide prior to consultation with an attorney familiar with your specific legal situation. It should not be considered legal advice or counseling. No such legal advice or counseling is either expressly or impliedly intended. This  information is not a substitute for the advice or counsel of an attorney. If you require legal advice, you should seek the services of an attorney.</p>
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